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KEEPING WATCH - WHO CAN NEGOTIATE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN MT. UNION AND RUSS?

By Steve Wilson | Jun 11, 2013

HENRY COUNTY —  

If anyone can negotiate an agreement between RUSS and Mt. Union my guess is Clarence Perry can.

I say that not because I have spoken to Clarence about the situation but because I have been in situations where Clarence was negotiating. In the meeting I remember particularly well, the discussions had gone on well into the night and Clarence was concerned that some folks were needing to get home. So he offered that we might either try to wrap things up, or schedule another meeting or continue on into the night. He went on to say that he loved doing this kind of work and he was certainly willing to stay later he just did not want to be inconveniencing those who needed to get home.

Somebody from RUSS and somebody from Mt. Union and a Supervisor and somebody like Clarence Perry who has a passion and the knack for negotiations all need to burn some midnight oil and work out the rubs between Mt. Union and RUSS before it all hits the fan in court.

 

Dangor recalled: "He (Mandela)  listened very carefully and then he said,

 'Listen I want to tell you something. You know, when you get people together who agree with each other, and they're friends, that's not dialogue. That's a chat. Bring together those who disagree with each other.'"

http://news.yahoo.com/mandela-hard-act-south-africans-092813717.html

 

6/25/2013

From what I have shared below We can see that the safe place to be is somewhere where We cannot see what is going on in the guts of government. 

Boris finds safety in the US, but Boris is not given the opportunity here to see and expose what Snowden saw.

Snowden finds refuge in Russia because he saw a big ugly spot in the US. We wait to hear how his visit in Russia has gone.

So over all We are left to wonder...  

In the process of creating a refuge for each other's whistle blowers do we help each Other grow?

Might that be another good reason to love our enemies?

Here is hoping so.

Because, looking at the way of the world, it seems like We had better be finding some better reasons.

 

 

6/25/2013 FROM RUSSIA FOR PERSPECTIVE

Boris Kuznetsov was a lawyer in Russia. In 2007 criminal charges were brought against him for the disclosure of a State Secret. He had presented a Federal Security Service (FSB) document in a court case which was labeled as “confidential”. The document revealed that FSB officials had illegally tapped his client’s phone. Since the document was labeled confidential it was decided submitting it as evidence was a criminal act. When Kuznetsov received his summons he left Russia and asked for and received political asylum in the US.

Kuznetsov said. "If I hadn't left, I'd be in jail for certain. However, they didn't just want me in jail… What they mainly wanted was to make sure I never practiced (law) again."

Kuznetsov said, "Data cannot be a 'State Secret' if it contains information on civil rights violations or abuse of official power: that's Article 7 on the law against Disclosing State Secrets."

Kuznetsov plans to stay in America and has little hope of returning to Russia any time soon.

http://www.sras.org/russian_exiles

Date line 4/4/2013

"A Moscow court Wednesday ordered the arrest of a prominent human rights lawyer who has been granted political asylum in the U.S."

"The Presnensky District Court said lawyer Boris Kuznetsov should be jailed on suspicion of divulging state secrets in connection with a case from the mid-2000s."

"The Federal Security Service accused Kuznetsov of revealing state secrets after he provided the Constitutional Court with documentation saying the FSB had illegally wiretapped the phone conversations of his client, former Federation Council Senator Levon Chakhmakhchyan."

"Kuznetsov flew to the U.S. in 2007 and was granted asylum a year later."

"A person who has the status of a political refugee cannot be placed on the international wanted list. This would directly contradict Russian legislation," said the lawyer, Ruslan Koblev, Interfax reported. "Interpol cannot search for a person who has political asylum."

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/moscow-court-orders-arrest-of-lawyer-granted-us-asylum/477906.html

http://www.rferl.org/content/Russian_Lawyer_Believes_Criminal_Case_Against_Him_Will_Be_Dismissed/1740035.html

6/24/2013 (Check out the Daily Kos link at the end of this post.)

"RT: Do you sleep more soundly at night as an American citizen, knowing that all this data - your data - is being captured and stored?

Ivan Eland: No I don’t. I think this is a real violation of the US Constitution. Even the Democrats are saying this is legal, it’s been checked out by Congress – but that doesn’t wash when it violates the direct provisions of the US Constitution, which states that any warrant cannot be a general warrant. In other words, they can’t go mining for things, which is what they are doing. And also, there has to be a probable cause that there has been a crime committed – well, every citizen in America can’t be suspected of being a criminal. Now, they say they're not listening into the conversations. But the Constitution does not say anything about that, it just says if it is a search – and this is a search, and it is clearly unconstitutional, even though the Patriot Act, which has unconstitutional portions of it, okay’s it. So I think it is a very bad thing, and there is another program that actually does capture emails, the content of emails, photos of people overseas – also captures Americans as well."

http://rt.com/op-edge/us-constitution-nsa-monitoring-396/

And who is Ivan? http://www.independent.org/aboutus/person_detail.asp?id=487

When campaigning for supervisor in the parades around the county I carried a bell. I called it the bell of freedom and I tied streamers to the clacker with the Bill of Rights noted on them.  I am not so much a flag waver as a bell ringer. I prefer well guided principles rather than explosive projectiles to further the cause of human rights at home and abroad.

Senators and Representatives -" I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic...;"

President - "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Now Congress and the President seek to criminalize a man who has dared to reveal volumes of evidence of their crimes. A petty thief  is being pursued by the hounds of traitors and  perjurers seeking to divert our attention from their crime to the chase.  

Only We the People can make it right.   

Sign the petition to pardon Snowden and to repeal the Patriot Act. I did and I can only do it once.

Again, this 4th of July, I am not going to wave the flag or try to sing the anthem or shoot off fireworks,  I am going to Ring the Bell of Freedom.

Even the Democrats are saying warrantless searches are legal and....

This Independence Day at high noon maybe I should celebrate my independence as an Independent voter by ringing the Bell of Freedom on the steps of the Henry County Courthouse - 10 times, once for each amendment in the Bill of Rights and then read them...

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


Amendment III

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.


Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.


Amendment VII

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.


Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

 

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html

So what is it, wall paper or... The Peoples Way of Life?

 

Joy looks at the Daily Kos regularly. I generally avoid it because it seems to be in lock step with the Democrats as in - Obama can do no wrong.  Today I have changed my mind.

"Ten months later, halfway around the world, Edward Snowden was monitoring the systems that were collecting this illegally accessed very private citizen data. And the data was not just from ordinary Americans and Chinese, but from all our friends and allies -- Germany, Australia, Canada, Scandinavia, Latin and South America, and many others.

It took three months for Snowden to decide to put a stop to this illegal activity.

If Snowden were a criminal, he could have exploited the data. Or sold it to identity thieves. Or, even sold it to a foreign enemy.

But in order to do the right thing -- and expose the crime -- Snowden would have to give up his own life and throw himself on the mercy of the ordinary citizens of the world."

Follow the link below to see how other countries around the world are responding. The global image of the US continues to decline.

 

 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/23/1218102/-US-NSA-Accused-of-Criminal-Privacy-Violations-in-Dozens-of-Nations-Snowden-Blowback

 

6/23/2013

PETITION TO PARDON SNOWDEN PASSES THE 100,000 BENCHMARK

Maybe Snowden went about it all wrong. Maybe he is a glory hound. Or maybe.... ? But anyway, there are over 100,000 people in the US with the courage to sign a petition calling for his pardon and I am among them.

In a county where those seeking to create an audio-visual record of the supervisor meetings were accused of harassing the supervisors, my guess is Snowden is not a popular guy here. Snowden's decision to share information with the Chinese is certainly not the way to win friends at home.

In my mind there is no question the People needed to know that Big Brother is watching but it should not have taken a Snowden to reveal it by ignoring the laws governing the release of classified information.... but it did. And there is the rub. 

Those seeking to gain what should be personal information about You are seeking to hide from You what should be public information about them.  They see in Snowden a threat to their job security as well they should.

When politicians feel threatened they tell You national security is threatened so that You feel your security is threatened. 

If they can scare You, then they expect that You will willingly surrender your civil rights for assurances from them that You are safe so long as You trust them. Believe the lie and immediately You feel better. Seeing the world and the way of it, who does not appreciate the value of a good con job? With it often comes a very pleasant release of any feelings of personal responsibility or impending doom.

The people of Henry County are pretty sharp. You do not need me to tell You these things. You know how the world works. I am the slow learner, so bear with me or ignore me as I go my way. 

I have often said the Henry County Supervisors could be champions of transparency - but they are not. If they were Ron and I would get bored and go home. You and I know they not champions of transparency and You know, that in the main, You do not care. It has taken me awhile to adjust to this. I wonder how well this attitude serves the economic interests of the county. But hey, I am a slow learner and I do not have any quick solution to the economic decline of Henry County.

Recently the supervisors made a gift of the financial liability for the maintenance of a chip and seal surface on a section of Jewel Avenue. (This would be the same supervisors that would not allow the Friends Church a one time tax abatement even as the church promised to foster the growth of healthy families in the community.)  The liability for this roads maintenance may be expected to substantially exceed the normal and customary costs of maintaining a gravel surface (and also well exceed the cost of the church's tax abatement for that matter.) What did the supervisors ask for in return for covering the increased maintenance costs on the road? Nothing. What was offered? Nothing. 

Whose money is at risk? Yours. Who cares? Just pause for a minute and weigh the cost of caring and not caring and... its a no brainer, isn't it?

But, but, the churches tax abatement would have been precedent setting. Really, and this project is not? This project is a one time one place favor and that is it? Anyway....

When I signed the petition to pardon Snowden I figured I put myself on some kind of special attention hit list of sorts in Washington. I watch for drones now. Seriously. Absurd?! Yes! But honest enough, because in that I understand why people just do not care. It is scary. Really. And it hurts. So why care? I leave that to You. I signed.      

 

ANOTHER PETITION

Every now and then I sign a petition. Yesterday I signed another one.  

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pardon-edward-snowden/Dp03vGYD

Those who seek to take away our freedoms and to deceive us are the enemies of a functional democracy. We The People have a right to know. The security of the nation depends on an informed electorate.

Both parties have betrayed and deceived the people with The Patriot Act.

" Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?" Wyden asked Clapper at the March 12 hearing.

"No, sir," Clapper lied.

Liars are promoted and protected and elected while truth telling is now tantamount to treason. Deception makes a mockery of Democracy. 

We send boys to war under the banner of protecting our freedom while those who are betraying us wrap themselves in the flag.  

Keep in mind that those who justify searches without warrants also justify imprisonment without charges and executions without a trial and disarming the people. The Constitution seeks to teach one of the dear lessons of history which is, anyone who tells You that they, or their kind or kin, can be trusted with such power - cannot be. 

Maybe Edward Snowden should get thirty days in jail just to send the message that he took extreme measures to inform The People our Freedoms are eroding away.

If so Clapper and Rice and Obama and Bush and Chaney and Clinton should get a year in the pokey for his every day.

But surely there must be better ways as our prisons are already over flowing.

So, for starters, lets pardon Edward Snowden.

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